DOP 235: Diving Into Platform Engineering Trends With Humanitec

Posted on Wednesday, Nov 1, 2023

Show Notes

#235: In the mid-2000s, Werner Vogels introduced the idea of “you build it, you run it”. This concept suggested that the same team responsible for building a product should also be responsible for running and maintaining it. However, despite the initial enthusiasm, we have yet to see this phrase truly materialize in practice. The industry has faced challenges in fully realizing the “build it, run it” philosophy.

In this episode, we speak with Kaspar von Grünberg, founder & CEO at Humanitec, about why “shifting left” to the developers really isn’t all it’s cracked up to be and how instead cleaner abstractions can bridge the gap in understanding between non-technical managers and the developers in the trenches.


Kaspar von Grünberg

Kaspar von Grünberg

Kaspar von Grünberg is an early pioneer in platform engineering. Over the last decade, he has been building Internal Developer Platforms (IDPs) at scale and is responsible for coining the term IDP. A regular speaker on the topic of platform engineering, Kaspar is the author of several associated defining articles. He is also the founder and CEO of Humanitec, the company behind Score and the Platform Orchestrator, which is now the centerpiece at the majority of dynamic IDPs.


Darin Pope

Darin Pope

Darin Pope is a developer advocate for CloudBees.

Viktor Farcic

Viktor Farcic

Viktor Farcic is a member of the Google Developer Experts and Docker Captains groups, and published author.

His big passions are DevOps, Containers, Kubernetes, Microservices, Continuous Integration, Delivery and Deployment (CI/CD) and Test-Driven Development (TDD).

He often speaks at community gatherings and conferences (latest can be found here).

He has published The DevOps Toolkit Series, DevOps Paradox and Test-Driven Java Development.

His random thoughts and tutorials can be found in his blog

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